@JH89 , he said he considers himself far left but some like Tulsi Gabbard & RFK have gone too far (totalitarianism can appear at both ends of the spectrum).
It’s about deception & abuses against human right. In thought reform, people are being harmed, (from interviewee)
I thought this was very well done and presented with lots of clearly easily understood concepts. And you kept me listening to the very end just to make sure my assumptions were correct…. But early on did you say you’re for Tulsi Gabbard?
I definitely agree that this is a “listen to several times” episode. I learned so much in such a short period of time. Now I need to absorb it. The thing I have a hard time with is keeping people in my life that are longtime trump supporters. I realize it’s up to us to spread the kindness and ACCURATE information, and forgiving them for some of their beliefs. It’s hard to ignore that their reasoning is causing the problems and disarray we are experiencing. If nothing else, we, on the left, must band together and fight! Maybe our strength will result in an eye opening for some of them.
It’s okay to not ignore; and if they try to talk critical, this is my plan: (my 🖐️ hand up) “we both know where each other stands. Are we able to set those things aside and work with love with each other?” If someone is saying (and I’ve heard some people say they think they DO have the right, like to save a soul, etc), then I’ll say I need some space and time, this is triggering cognitive dissonance in me. Can you focus on —, or shall I leave (or hang up) & we can talk later?”
Depending on intensity of your distress, you MAY be able to just acknowledge internally, cock an eyebrow silently, let them finish, & say “I heard you. Now will you listen to my perspective?”
Some food for thought. I appreciate your insight. There has only been one bit of communication since I walked away from the “friendship”. She actually reached out and said she was thinking of me, with love, and respects my decision. Breakthrough? We’ll see.
This is so good. We need an entire manual, and a clear definition of what thought reform is, and examples in multiple aspects of our lives-such as in a relationship, in the workplace, in an organization, etc.
So many terms going by that people new to the idea of undue influence may have never thought about, and yet IMO these are some of the most important conversations we need to be having for our own survival.
@JH89 , he said he considers himself far left but some like Tulsi Gabbard & RFK have gone too far (totalitarianism can appear at both ends of the spectrum).
It’s about deception & abuses against human right. In thought reform, people are being harmed, (from interviewee)
He said he considers himself far left but some like Tulsi Gabbard & RFK have gone too far (totalitarianism can appear at both ends of the spectrum?)
The techniques can be used in any context: in general, be aware that manipulation can occur anywhere on spectrum.
I thought this was very well done and presented with lots of clearly easily understood concepts. And you kept me listening to the very end just to make sure my assumptions were correct…. But early on did you say you’re for Tulsi Gabbard?
Oh my God, no. I must've spoken badly.
About spouses & likes on fb; I suspect there’s a lot of us that have self-gaslit to have (in past) made some inconsistencies bearable.
I definitely agree that this is a “listen to several times” episode. I learned so much in such a short period of time. Now I need to absorb it. The thing I have a hard time with is keeping people in my life that are longtime trump supporters. I realize it’s up to us to spread the kindness and ACCURATE information, and forgiving them for some of their beliefs. It’s hard to ignore that their reasoning is causing the problems and disarray we are experiencing. If nothing else, we, on the left, must band together and fight! Maybe our strength will result in an eye opening for some of them.
It’s okay to not ignore; and if they try to talk critical, this is my plan: (my 🖐️ hand up) “we both know where each other stands. Are we able to set those things aside and work with love with each other?” If someone is saying (and I’ve heard some people say they think they DO have the right, like to save a soul, etc), then I’ll say I need some space and time, this is triggering cognitive dissonance in me. Can you focus on —, or shall I leave (or hang up) & we can talk later?”
Depending on intensity of your distress, you MAY be able to just acknowledge internally, cock an eyebrow silently, let them finish, & say “I heard you. Now will you listen to my perspective?”
Some food for thought. I appreciate your insight. There has only been one bit of communication since I walked away from the “friendship”. She actually reached out and said she was thinking of me, with love, and respects my decision. Breakthrough? We’ll see.
Another vulnerable group are those who are pregnant-we need mental protections for them!
This I can tell is a “listen to this several times” episode.
This is so good. We need an entire manual, and a clear definition of what thought reform is, and examples in multiple aspects of our lives-such as in a relationship, in the workplace, in an organization, etc.
So many terms going by that people new to the idea of undue influence may have never thought about, and yet IMO these are some of the most important conversations we need to be having for our own survival.
Thank you both!!